On reality TV and celebrity gossip:
"There’s different context. How much time and attention are you paying to it? What is it doing? Is it a kind of entertainment? It can go from there to absolute weirdness. But there's also just wanting to know how the other is. What is someone else's life like? [You can find out by reading] a biography or [watching] a gossip channel. It just depends on what you are looking for. I think there's fantasy involved. Association."